the teaches of peaches : conspiracy theory

[bond-girl.livejournal.com]

While you're pacing in front of your TV in wait for the finale, LET'S TALK ABOUT FRUIT. The one that is relevant to our interests.

What do you think Renly's peach means? Does it come back to haunt us? Absolutely all opinions are welcome.



I was so baffled by this scene in the book! Is there more to it than Renly shamelessly taunting Stannis with the power of Highgarden behind him?

Somehow, I don't feel it was a non-subtle GRRM way to flaunt his sexuality in a 'haha that Renly is a fruit' way. Totally another genre and it would clash with the mood of the scene, in my opinion. Both Stannis and I are confused, and the fact that Stannis keeps coming back to it, this tickles my conspiracy theory radar. Unless it's just a way to show that even a lobster can feel remorse. Idk, will Stannis be killed by a well-thrown giant peach, choked by his afternoon sangria, move to Georgia? Or is there a symbolism that escapes me?

(I am on the third book, fwiw.)


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Comments

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I thought that in the original exchange Renly meant what he said after he eat the peach : "A man should never refuse to taste a peach, Renly said as he tossed the stone away. He may never get the chance again. Life is short, Stannis. Remember what the Starks say. Winter is coming" . Renly loves life and lives it to the full. He wants Stannis to relax a bit and start enjoying the life too! Also it is a foreboding of Renly's fate.

Later, Stannis remembers the conversation, but he forgot what Renly ment by it (and may be never got it? even though Renly said it as directly as you can? sometimes we do not hear things that are said out loud..), at the same time he remembers that there was something .. important.


But I guess that Martin did include this as Renly/Loras metaphora as well, of course! So this is multi-layered.

PS; There was also a brothel called The Peach (where genry and Arya stayed)

[bond-girl.livejournal.com]

I guess I am trying to read into it too hard and it was meant to be nothing more than a characterization moment and a metaphor.

Wouldn't it be neat though if a peach came back to haunt Stannis? In fic and in lit, one of my favorite tricks is when things come back full circle.

Oh god, Gendry in a brothel? Must. read. faster. It's an interesting setting, considering how he came about.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

You never know with Martin, we can choke on a peach or something kile that. :D

I do think Renly is dead for good, though. I am sorry!

Oh god, Gendry in a brothel?

He wasn't really in a brothel. :D They stayed because they had nowhere to stay, Arya is all "Let's stay here!!!" and Gendry "Are you sure". I ship them in the show, I always imagined Genry uglier in the book.

[bond-girl.livejournal.com]

Confession time: I really like Gendry. He's a Baratheon and a Tyrell in me can't resist, I guess, and then I love his rapport with Arya, they play off each other so well. Totally ship this.

Also, how about Gendry/Joff? I am probably the only person who would ship that but it's duh!awesome to me and full of irony.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

Joff needs someone to be shipped with. Actully, without joke, I do sometimes think that may Joff did not like the girls all that much - there is no indication in the books that the was interested in any of the girls.